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Fix Loc Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.06.10 15:30:00 - [1] - Quote Keeping in mind the old adage that the plural of anecdote is not data, I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents, in case they are at all helpful... I'd also like to state up front that most of the people I've met in EVE Online are some of the nicest (in the most bloodthirsty, pod-exploding way) and friendly folks around. And they are all male. I'm a woman who recently (in the last few months) started playing EVE. I've been reading some of the discussion lately and seen a lot of reasoning. I thought I might give my personal viewpoints on that (speaking only for myself, of course): 1. The topic that "it's too hard for girls" - well, no. Being a newbie in EVE is hard for anyone, and not everyone who picks up EVE sticks with it. But it's hard enough without gender issues. Then add the gender issues... 2. EVE "doesn't appeal to women". I really doubt that. At least, it appeals to me... I do think, however, that most of the fun stuff in EVE requires a good corporation. A good corp can make or break a new player's interest in the game (because mining...). It is also harder to find, because a) you are somewhat less valuable as a player and b) you don't have the knowledge and experience to identify a good corp. Then add finding a good newb-friendly corp that feels welcoming/safe to a female player. It's an extra hurdle in an already steep acclimation process. Required voice comms also make it hard to test the waters before you make yourself a target. 3. "Because Sci-Fi!" - it's really more "because intimidating", I think. I'm an introverted, cerebral type who enjoys spaceships, immersive games and mastering knowledge/skills related to them. A sci-fi spaceship game like EVE is perfect for me. However, I don't have the confidence to shrug off or overcompensate for other people's insecurities/prejudices. Honestly, I shouldn't have to be. I'm just a geek that wants to spend my free time flying space ships, not dealing with sexism. So, for others such as myself, who seem to me to be at least part of the demographic that would love to play EVE, it can be off-putting to realise how heavily male-dominated most of the significant corps/alliances are. In my case, my experience has taught me that the lower the % of women in a given social group, the more likely it is that I'm going to be treated differently because I'm a woman. I've found that most male gamers are not sexist, but they tend to not mind when other men are being sexist. So when you're a girl in that situation, you feel really alone. And I hate that. I imagine others do too. 4. I've seen a lot of articles and posts saying that women are more social and need extra social stuff. I'm not so sure on the extra, to be honest... not because women aren't social - they are! I just don't think men are any less social. It's just easier for them to find social groups within games that aren't predominantly composed of the opposite sex (go figure...) 5. If I had to make one suggestion on how to get more women into EVE, it would be to get more women into EVE... most of us try a new game because we know someone who plays. (Side note, this is where much of the "boyfriend myth" comes from - because so many women start playing a game because their boyfriend plays, a lot of people assume women are just mindlessly following a partner - but many guys started playing because of their (usually male) friends. Doesn't mean they're not 'really' into gaming...) When women play games, they tell their friends, who are often other women. I've dragged three girls into different MMOs who might never have tried them otherwise, but who are hopelessly addicted to them now. (I'm a horrible person, I know :P) We drag our friends into trying the things we love, give them help and advice, and some of them stick around, others don't. Women tend to have more female friends. (Obviously this is a gross generalisation - but I think you get my point). TL;DR: Playing an MMO alone is kinda boring, regardless of gender. Lack of other women exacerbates already significant barrier of entry to new female players. Don't really have a simple, brilliant solution to this... * I'm posting this on an alt because I would like to be able to keep playing this game.
Fix Loc Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.06.11 00:44:00 - [2] - Quote Shedemei Silfar wrote: Personally, I'd like to be thought of as a pilot first, and evaluated based on my skills and behavior rather than a mindless stereotype. I like to think I try to do the same with everyone else. Respect can really be that simple. Fair enough? I think if there was a simple and brilliant way to get more women into EVE, it would be for everyone to have that attitude.

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